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Thread: "OPEN FOR BUSINESS" - THIEF Merchants/Traders & City/District Map - All Discussion

"OPEN FOR BUSINESS" - THIEF Merchants/Traders & City/District Map - All Discussion

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    The Butcher, the Baker and the Candlestick Maker... we need to vist them all and keep a shopping list!
    So, time for a thread to archive all merchants/traders (legitimate or black market) in Thief... and to keep any notes of interest including images, the proprietor, district/location, easter eggs, secrets and spoilers etc. etc.
    I wonder if we'll recognise any familiar stores such as "Farkus Functionals". I always loved that name.

    Currently we only have the names we've seen in trailers, screenshots and concept art, but there will be others to discover during gameplay when Thief is released.
    I've made a start on a list below: It will be updated/edited regularly and will hopefully prove useful as a point of reference.

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    As always, please feel free to contribute to this archive and post any information so far missed... and yet to come.


    To begin, can anyone work out the rest of the title on the "Grey Stone" shop sign?

    Enjoy!



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    CITY MAP (as seen in Stories From The City: "Basso's Gamble" trailer



    Originally Posted by Master Taffer


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    BARON'S WAY
    Sign over city gate, located close to Reynard's Coffeeshop

    BACKWAY

    BLACKFURROW

    BROTHEL
    "THE HOUSE OF BLOSSOMS"
    Proprietor: Madame XiaoXiao
    District/Street:


    CASINO

    COBBLER
    Proprietor?


    DRUGSTORE
    "DR TROY'S"
    Proprietor - Doctor Troy?
    District/Street:


    LOCKSMITH

    LIQUOR STORE


    STILSON (right of church)
    Proprietor:: ? Stilson


    JEWELLER
    Proprietor: Serendi



    PRINT SHOP - NEWSPAPER


    REYNARD'S COFFEEHOUSE

    Located close to city gate with sign "BARON'S WAY"


    STREET STALLS

    STONECUTTERS' COURT


    STONECUTTERS COURT WEST

    TAVERN
    THE CRIPPLED BURRICK PUB
    Proprietor: Basso



    TOWNEHOUSE

    TRAITOR'S GATE

    WEAPONERY


    WINE MERCHANT



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    ]UNKNOWN (NAMES/TRADES NOT YET MATCHED)

    "CAMPBELLS"

    "GREY STONE - ? of ?"
    Lodgings of Day Port?


    "SMOKING SILVERMAN"
    Possibly a casino... or a gunsmiths?

    "THOMAS" (left of church)


    STOVES AND TIN WARE ?


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    STREETS/AREAS:

    Market Avenue


    BlackFurrow
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    BRANDS/MERCHANDISE

    "KAOLA" - "Always Hot" - unknown produce, possibly a beverage such as tea.
    Note: closest word found is kaolinite/kaolin or china clay.

    "PIRELLI'S MIRACLE ELIXIR" - a poster on the right window of the shoe repair shop
    Note: presumed a nod to classic Victorian Gothic literature. Adolfo Pirelli is an Italian character from the play "Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street"
    Todd first appeared in one of the Victorian Penny Dreadful publications, "The String of Pearls".
    Todd and Mrs Lovett were invited to purchase the very same titled elixir - one of Pirelli's concoctions - by his assistant in the play.
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    *cough*

    To begin, can anyone work out the rest of the title on the "Grey Stone" shop sign?
    Some master taffer here must have an amazing zoom-lens eye!

    Click on thumbnail below:


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    Resolution's too low, I think...

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    Too low for me to make it out.

    A wild guess:

    Lodging
    &
    ?

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    Maijstral, do you definitely see the second word as "&" and not "of"?

    Hmm, I zoomed-in using a photo-editor and wonder if anyone else thinks the last word in the title might say Day Port?
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    It's too low resolution for me to definitely see anything beyond Grey Stone. It looks like the word below Grey Stone starts with an L, but I'm not even totally confident about that.

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    Originally Posted by Viktoria
    Maijstral, do you definitely see the second word as "&" and not "of"?

    Hmm, I zoomed-in using a photo-editor and wonder if anyone else thinks the last word in the title might say Day Port?
    I think it's GREY STONE Lodgings of Day Port
    "When the progress of time ceases, the evil one will be pointed out for all to see."

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    I've just added the thumbnail for this outside image of Dr Troy's drugstore.




    EDIT:
    And the image showing Market Avenue:




    Okay, here's a good image to speculate over.



    The crate to the left has a brand name "KAOLA"
    Can anyone work out what the text says just above it?

    The central building to the left of the guards has a red sign above the door.
    The script is gothic medieval in style.
    Can anyone make out any letters?

    Finally, the background displays a sign; just to the right of, and partly obscured by, the streetlamp.
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    I manipulated the image to give you a slightly better chance.
    It could be _ads & book store.
    '&' could be 'of'.
    It might not be 'store' but it does look like an 's' and 't'.
    Could 'book' be 'brook'?

    Maybe you guys will see something different.



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    Good stuff... thank you.

    Yeah, that small word is definitely "of".... and now I'm seeing "Tools" as the first word.

    "Tools of ?"


    EDIT

    "Tools of Tungsten"?
    Haha, I love how brains attempt to work it out and end up seeing all sorts of things.
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    Originally Posted by Viktoria
    The crate to the left has a brand name "KAOLA"
    Can anyone work out what the text says just above it?
    "Always hot"

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    Originally Posted by Viktoria


    "Tools of Tungsten"
    Probably. It looks visibly reasonable, and it makes sense that a Victorian era business dealing in stonework would be touting it.

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    Originally Posted by Viktoria
    The central building to the left of the guards has a red sign above the door.
    The script is gothic medieval in style.
    Can anyone make out any letters?
    Here's the full size pic:
    http://darkfate.org/view/simple/file...1380708260.jpg
    The lower word is definitely "BEVERAGES" (the sign above guards' heads)

    BTW, The Crippled Burrick sign has a burrick's head painted on it and it looks very similar to Dark Project concept art.

    The one behind the street lamp reads "Smoking Silver" whatewer that means…

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    Thanks!
    Summary updated

    We have matched three views of the Crippled Burrick pub now. Main street, rear and interior.
    I didn't recognise the pub from the street view at first.


    Originally Posted by DJ Riff
    "Always hot"
    Excellent. I wonder if the brand name might suggest tea. Delicious!
    The closest I can find to the name is Kaolin china clay, used in the Victorian times to produce porcelain.


    Originally Posted by Maijstral
    Probably. It looks visibly reasonable, and it makes sense that a Victorian era business dealing in stonework would be touting it.
    Yeah, I considered the logic behind it. But the very first letter (for Tungsten) looks more like a B than a T sometimes.

    I've just added the thumbnail for this image showing the street view of the jeweller's shop.




    Can anyone work out the other signs? The one on top of the door way.
    I think the one to the right of the jeweller and doorway says "Wine"?
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    I think the whole building is the Jeweler's building, so the sign on the right should say jeweler as well.

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    Full-size picture:
    http://www.nofrag.com/images/006d1b.jpg
    The right sign reads "Jeweller" too, the one on top of the door reads "Serendi", maybe it's the name of the owner.

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    Awesome, DJ Riff. Thank you.
    Serendi could very likely be the name of the proprietor, yes.
    Summary updated.



    EDIT: Just added image of shoe repair shop to summary (under 'Cobbler')

    EDIT 2: I wonder if the property "Smoking Silver" is a casino... or a gunsmths?
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    There is a poster on the right window of the shoe repair shop that says PIRELLIS MIRACLE ELIXIR which reminds me of Dishonored Pierro's miracle elixir.

    Two things I noticed with the church picture is that if you zoom in on the picture to the far right where the locksmith is,you can see the same two people sitting outside of the shoe repair shop and the actual repair shop.I taught this was pretty cool as it's like one whole picture broken up if anyone get's me.Also the second thing is that to the right of the entrance I was wondering is that a Keeper statue holding a key.
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    Originally Posted by drunken taffer
    There is a poster on the right window of the shoe repair shop that says PIRELLIS MIRACLE ELIXIR which reminds me of Dishonored Pierro's miracle elixir.
    Wow, that is intriguing.

    Not Dishonored - I would say a nod to classic Gothic Victorian literature... in this case Adolfo Pirelli, an Italian character from the play "Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street"
    Todd first appeared in one of the Victorian Penny Dreadful publications, "The String of Pearls".
    Todd and Mrs Lovett were invited to purchase the very same titled elixir - one of Pirelli's concoctions - by his assistant in the play.

    Interesting stuff. I wonder if there will be further reference to Victorian literature, and art, in Thief. I like.

    EDIT:
    Also, miracle elixir was commonplace in the Victorian era.


    FYI, I have added the image of the City Map to summary above.
    This map can be seen in the Stories From The City: "Basso's Gamble" trailer.
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    Regarding the sign to the right foreground
    I speculate it reads "STOVES AND TIN WARE". Anyone agree?
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    Originally Posted by Viktoria
    *cough*



    Some master taffer here must have an amazing zoom-lens eye!

    Click on thumbnail below:


    It "looks" to me like...

    " Mr pippin's emporium of unfeasibly long store names delicately etched onto wooden hanging boards for your pleasure ( and some other stuff as well if you ask nicely.... No not that you dirty minded sod, although we 'did' do 'that' for a bit, paid well but when the papers got wind... Thwooo, less said, less said the better) and cash for gold, limited liability partnership, a subsidiary of whoop-whoop-icky-thump co., a family business trading since AD 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481 117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233 786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006 606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146"

    Yeah I'm bored

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    Originally Posted by taff
    Yeah I'm bored
    Try not to be... you only live once.
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    Part 2 of Stories from the City trailer shows a better view of the shops and reveals the correct name for one store is "Smoking Silverman" and not "Smoking Silver" as we originally speculated. Summary above updated.
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    Originally Posted by Viktoria



    Regarding the sign to the right foreground
    I speculate it reads "STOVES AND TIN WARE". Anyone agree?
    It doesn't really matter what it says anywhere on this picture, because it has already been confirmed that it's purely a concept/promotional photoshop piece made out of little pieces such as guard renders and bits of building structure. The guards are just cutout concepts, and the same birds, water tower and building roof can be found in another picture as well.

    Unless of course if it's a level artist concept. In that case, actual level decoration is based on the things depicted in the pictures.

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    Originally Posted by Platinumoxicity

    Unless of course....
    Of course.


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